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Brazil?
The map indicates Brazil is in the highest tier for Dutch descendants, but doesn't actually have the number of Dutch people living there Ac2127 (talk) 15:50, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- It’s probably a mistake or it needs to be fixed and the country’s map needs to be more darker red, according to most Brazilians I’ve interacted with, 4 to 6.78 million Brazilians have Dutch ancestry lol. 2601:280:C200:91C0:8578:CDC:B2D9:6E65 (talk) 01:04, 4 November 2025 (UTC)
Hypocrisy
The Slavs, such as the Russians, are allowed the designation as a "West/East/South Slavic" ethnic group but the Germanic-speaking ethnic groups are forbidden from this? What a load of baloney.
Is this because the Slavs have historically been viewed as an inferior people and, thus, are allowed special privileges as a result of being a minority? Because I notice this trend:
The higher the social class of an ethnic group/race (i.e. Germanic), the less "privileged" they are, so to speak. 199.7.157.42 (talk) 15:04, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
- See #Germanic_ethnic_group_? above. Rsk6400 (talk) 17:37, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
- Ethnicity seems to be of relatively minor interest in the Netherlands, even among xenophobic, anti immigration groups. Notably far right leader Geert Wilders is from mixed Dutch-Indonesian descent - a fact neither denied, nor mentioned in the public debate. Dutch census bureau (CBS) has abolished ethnicity as term in 2022 (and before that had a rather technical and complex definition). CBS now only records people that were born outside of the Netherlands, and those born in the Netherlands with 1 or both parents born abroad (which includes people born while their parents were temporarily abroad etc). So even if you want to include ethnicity it will be nigh impossible to find a reliable source for any numbers etc. Arnoutf (talk) 17:54, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
- Far right group FVD does care about this (even though its leader is also part Indonesian). Anyway, I think the most straightforward distinction that can be made is Dutch citizens vs Dutch ancestry (i.e. perceived descent from the 'indigenous' population that lived in the area now called the Netherlands since the middle ages). But I agree we don't have to call the ethnic Dutch 'Germanic'. If that's based on language, we'd have to call Americans 'Germanic' too. And if it's based on being of Germanic descent, then it wrongfully assume the native Dutch don't also descent from Celtic tribes for example. The same way the English people page doesn't say 'Germanic' either. Machinarium (talk) 21:00, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Ethnicity seems to be of relatively minor interest in the Netherlands, even among xenophobic, anti immigration groups. Notably far right leader Geert Wilders is from mixed Dutch-Indonesian descent - a fact neither denied, nor mentioned in the public debate. Dutch census bureau (CBS) has abolished ethnicity as term in 2022 (and before that had a rather technical and complex definition). CBS now only records people that were born outside of the Netherlands, and those born in the Netherlands with 1 or both parents born abroad (which includes people born while their parents were temporarily abroad etc). So even if you want to include ethnicity it will be nigh impossible to find a reliable source for any numbers etc. Arnoutf (talk) 17:54, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
"Dutch peoples" listed at Redirects for discussion
The redirect Dutch peoples has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 January 26 § Dutch peoples until a consensus is reached. — Anonymous 04:51, 26 January 2025 (UTC)
"People of the Netherlands" listed at Redirects for discussion
The redirect People of the Netherlands has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 January 27 § People of the Netherlands until a consensus is reached. — Anonymous 19:53, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
"Administrative unit"
Hello, I understand that this is a simplification, but I believe that this sentence creates a very wrong impression: "Under the Habsburgs, the Netherlands were organised into a single administrative unit". Are there better ways to describe the situation? Having the same ruler and some common institutions does not create an "administrative unit". Ziko (talk) 12:20, 31 December 2025 (UTC)