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Ban appeal
Hello, I would like to appeal my ban for the Discord server. My username is <redacted>, it seems like this is redacted ASAP, I appreciate that. TylerBurden (talk) 19:42, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
Reliability channel needed at WP Community
We (Audiodude and I) were discussing stuff relating to WT:RSP RFC 2025 (the upcoming, new format for the Perennial sources table) at the BA WUG server, ie, the wrong place, and we are wondering if an admin or someone with the right perms can create a channel (possibly temporary) at the Wikipedia Community server so we can discuss there. The narrow topic is: 'New format for Reliable sources/Perennial sources format', and if channels need to be broader than that, could be the 'Perennial sources', 'Reliable sources', or even 'Reliability' channel. This is only my day 2 on the that server, so not quite if I am asking this the right way. Much thanks for any help or advice. Mathglot (talk) 04:43, 15 November 2025 (UTC)
- Another option that wouldn't require mods (you could do yourself) is you could create a thread with the English Wikipedia channel as the parent. –Novem Linguae (talk) 04:59, 15 November 2025 (UTC)
- Actually I'm not sure we need a channel for the specific RFC discussion, the folks on the server just sugested making a thread, which we did. If there is a larger, perennial (see what I did there?) need for RSP discussions, then maybe a channel might make sense in the future. I've mentioned you in the thread. audiodude (talk) 05:06, 15 November 2025 (UTC)
Venue for ban appeals
Hi, regarding ban appeals - is this page really the best place to deal with this? I think there are two issues:
- How is an English Wikipedia community discussion appropriate? A community consensus forming here isn't enforceable, and isn't even what is being asked.
- Users shouldn't have to publish their Discord usernames to Wikipedia to get help with that external service.
Perhaps these requests for this external service should move off-wiki, such as to a mailing list? What does anyone else think? Thank you, — xaosflux Talk 12:52, 16 November 2025 (UTC)
- After talking a bit with some current moderators of Wikipedia-related Discord servers, it seems they feel it would be problematic to *not* have some sort of appeal mechanism, and the configuration of Discord doesn't really allow for an on-Discord method of reaching the moderator team once one has been banned from the relevant server. Thus, we have this situation where ban appeals for a separate communication channel require self-publication of one's username in order to initiate the request. I understand that the moderators don't want to make the unban request process any more complicated than necessary, and there is something to be said for the "well, don't get banned and it won't be a problem" philosophy held by many users. But I don't think it is a good idea to have an on-wiki page and process that requires users to reveal what is normally considered personal information in order to activate the process. There should be a comparatively lightweight process that doesn't require any greater effort on the part of the moderators but doesn't require onwiki self-disclosure. This could perhaps be a mailing list or a VRT queue or something like that. I note that this is a paraphrasing of a discussion I had with multiple Discord moderators and other interested Discord users in the Administrators channel/server/whatever it's called. Risker (talk) 17:40, 16 November 2025 (UTC)
Proposal for modifying text of "Ban appeals" section
This proposal is based on concepts that have been brainstormed on the Discord admin server today:
- Make an appeal at Wikipedia talk:Discord while supplying your Discord username—do not go into details. The moderators will discuss, and if warranted, one of them will direct message you (sending a friend request first, if necessary). Since the server exists to further collaboration between editors, moderators expect to see a recent and consistent history of good content contributions before considering appeals.
- If you have reason not to publicly share your Discord username (e.g., it could reveal other personal information about you), you may post the request without the Discord username, or alternately you may contact a moderator using the "email this user" feature from your Wikipedia account with the unban request and Discord username.
- Unban appeals will only be considered from users who have an authorized Discord account.
The first paragraph remains the same, the remainder is new text. Posting it here, and will provide the link in the Discord server. Risker (talk) 20:30, 16 November 2025 (UTC)
- I think the discord moderators should be the ones to come up with any proposed language for their process. I personally do not think the current process is cohersive so I think it should be treated as a voluntary disclosure. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 20:47, 16 November 2025 (UTC)
- I suppose the primary issue I'm looking at is along the lines of Should the English Wikipedia be used as a webhost for this external service to manage their user moderation?. — xaosflux Talk 21:50, 16 November 2025 (UTC)
- While I can certainly agree that there is something to be said about having this moved off English Wikipedia, whether or not this page should be on this project or on another project or on a non-Wikimedia platform is a different question than the one that started this discussion. What I'm proposing above (based on the ideas some moderators themselves brainstorned) is aimed very specifically at removing the expectation that users need to provide information that would normally be considered nonpublic or private in order to appeal an action taken on a different platform. The moderators themselves have come up with ways to avoid that, and I've simply written it down. I think we as a community sometimes forget is that any information published on this site is duplicated in multiple unofficial mirrors and in official dumps, and we should be endeavouring to reduce the amount of personal information on this site. The moderators themselves came up with the mitigation strategies identifed in the proposal (yes, I know I'm repeating myself), and we should encourage them to follow through on their ideas. Risker (talk) 00:21, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
- I suppose the primary issue I'm looking at is along the lines of Should the English Wikipedia be used as a webhost for this external service to manage their user moderation?. — xaosflux Talk 21:50, 16 November 2025 (UTC)