User talk:Togawa11

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August 2023

Information icon Hello, I'm Cordless Larry. I noticed that you recently removed content from Somalia without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Cordless Larry (talk) 20:02, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

October 2023

Information icon Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did at Adal Sultanate, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear to be constructive and has been reverted. If you only meant to make a test edit, please use your sandbox for that. Thank you.C.Fred (talk) 02:58, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

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Daniel Case (talk) 22:01, 20 October 2023 (UTC)


December 2023

Hello, I'm User:Binglebarry. I noticed that you recently removed content from Somaliland without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks  Preceding undated comment added 03:01, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

Information icon Please do not add or change content, as you did at List of wars involving Somalia, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Per WP:BURDEN, unsourced material may be removed at any time. The material you restored does not have citations from WP:IS WP:RS showing this meets the article inclusion criteria.  // Timothy :: talk  00:15, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

Warning icon Please stop. If you continue to remove maintenance templates without resolving the problem that the template refers to, as you did at List of wars involving Somalia, you may be blocked from editing.  // Timothy :: talk  21:28, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Battle of Barawa. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Points to note:

  1. Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
  2. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing.

Notice of edit warring noticeboard discussion

Information icon Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. Thank you. R Prazeres (talk) 21:14, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

December 2023

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You have been blocked from editing for a period of 48 hours for edit warring, as you did at Battle of Barawa. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions.
During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection.
If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please review Wikipedia's guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text to the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  Aoidh (talk) 11:35, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

January 2024

Stop icon You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at 1982 Ethiopian–Somali Border War. Skitash (talk) 19:16, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

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You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for persistently making disruptive edits.
If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please review Wikipedia's guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text to the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:20, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Unblock

I have been blocked for trying to correct historical inconsistencies, I would like to have be given a chance to correct this by including the proper references in the future Togawa11 (talk) 10:31, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Unblock

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Request reason:

I have been blocked for trying to correct historical inconsistencies, I would like to have be given another chance to correct my mistakes by including the proper references next time and not repeatedly editing

Reply: Yes that is the mistake I will be correcting further on by citing my sources for any edits I make in topics with various contentions my doing it collaboratively. I have tried before on certain topics but I would get no replies for some reason Togawa11 (talk) 10:37, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Decline reason:

You were posting your preferred version of history without citing sources. This is not collaborative; you cannot impose your will because you think it is correct; everyone thinks that their edits are correct. You will need to tell us what will change about your editing in the future, especially with formally designated contentious topic areas. 331dot (talk) 20:51, 8 May 2024 (UTC)


If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Unblock

{{unblock}} Togawa11 (talk) 03:27, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Unblock

{{unblock}} Togawa11 (talk) 10:22, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

Unblock

{{unblock}} Togawa11 (talk) 17:36, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Unblock

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This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

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Request reason:

I have been blocked for trying to correct historical inconsistencies, I would like to have be given another chance to correct my mistakes by including the proper references next time and not repeatedly editing. That is the mistake I will be correcting further on by citing my sources for any edits I make in topics with various contentions my doing it collaboratively. I have tried before on certain topics but I would get no replies. There will be no future editing without consulting.

Decline reason:

I am not going to unblock you so you can go back to the disputed topic area. If you want to edit other topics, you should say so in your next unblock request. PhilKnight (talk) 16:33, 25 June 2024 (UTC)


If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Togawa11 (talk) 01:50, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

Unblock request

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Request reason:

I have been blocked for trying to correct historical inconsistencies in topics concerning Somalia and related history pages, I am regretful and feel sorry for editing these pages so disruptively without discussing or doing it in the correct manner according to the websites policies, that is the mistake I gravely made and feel regretful for. In the future if I am allowed to edit again, I will be correcting further on by citing my sources for any edits I make in topics with various contentions by doing it collaboratively with other users and admins in the Talk section. There will be no future editing without consulting in proper channels regarding topics such as Ahmad al-Ghazi, Adal Sultanate and other Somali related topics

Accept reason:

I am conditionally unblocking you subject to a prohibition from editing Somalia-related articles without first getting acceptance on the talk page (through edit requests or explicit talk page consensus), logged at Wikipedia:Editing restrictions#Togawa11. Happy editing! Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 14:43, 10 December 2025 (UTC)

Togawa11 (talk) 07:21, 22 November 2025 (UTC)

Can you explain how your editing was disruptive? Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 03:47, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
My editing was disruptive because I would edit without discussing repeatedly after a edit has been reverted on a page, something I feel bad for and will definitely change in the future. Togawa11 (talk) 09:41, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
(Non-administrator comment) I've got a couple of questions, if I may:
  1. Could you please explain the steps you would take if someone reverted one of your edits? You can read Wikipedia:BRD but make sure you explain it in your own words to show you understand it.
  2. Would you be happy to be unblocked with a topic ban on the areas you had trouble with, if an admin felt that was appropriate?
This needn't be permanent, TBAN's may be removed once you've gone for at least a few months (usually six) with productive edits elsewhere, then you'd need to successfully show an admin that you won't cause disruption if the ban were removed. Blue Sonnet (talk) 22:28, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
1. The steps I would take if an edit I made was reverted, is I would check if I agree with the consensus of the edit and if I do not I would open the Talk page of the specific topic and beginna discussion regarding a best suitable option for a new consensus.
2. Yes I would be okay with a topic ban on specific topics if the admin felt it was appropriate. Togawa11 (talk) 13:24, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
Bump Togawa11 (talk) 14:20, 3 December 2025 (UTC)
Hi again, bumping doesn't really do anything - once you've got an appeal open, they show in a category page in date order. There's a backlog so the admins will get to you as soon as they can, but they're volunteers like we are so there's no set timescale. Blue Sonnet (talk) 16:23, 3 December 2025 (UTC)
Hi @Togawa11! This is a good summary of WP:BRD, and more importantly a good way to proceed on Wikipedia. I do not think a full topic ban would be necessary, although I invite you to be careful with nationalist editing! I recommend you directly open discussions or go through talk page edit requests in topics involving Somalia – would you be okay with that as a condition for unblocking?
Before unblocking, I would also like to know how you will proceed regarding sources in the future, as that is another important aspect of the situation. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 18:59, 9 December 2025 (UTC)
Hello @Chaotic Enby, yes I would be okay with that as a condition going forward. In regards to how I will deal with sourcing in the future, I will make sure to use reputable primary/secondary sources which are clear in the editing and the Talk page when discussing topics of contention rather than repeatedly editinf without any communication. Togawa11 (talk) 13:03, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
Thanks, that should be good! Courtesy ping to the blocking admin (@HJ Mitchell) to have his opinion on this before I unblock. (Also, I invite you to read when primary sources can be used for useful context!) Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 13:10, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
No objections given that we now have communication and (hopefully) understanding. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 13:51, 10 December 2025 (UTC)